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We demand that the Gurkhas receive equal pensions

The Parliament petitions site records 108,278 signatures for this petition, which closed on 6 February 2022. The Government responded on 19 August 2021. MPs debated it in Westminster Hall on 22 November 2021.

Signatures
108,278
final count
Government response
19 August 2021
Ministry of Defence
Debated
22 November 2021
Westminster Hall

The petition

The petition's creator is not named in the Petitions site's published record. Quoted in full from the UK Parliament petitions site.

We demand that the Gurkhas receive equal pensions

We are demanding that the government treats Gurkhas fairly and pays them the same pension as other British veterans of the same rank and service. Many Gurkhas joined the Queen’s Gurkha Army believing their pension would sustain them and their families but sadly this has not been the case.

Gurkhas served the crown and British yet many Gurkhas and their widows live in poverty in the UK and their relatives are forced into modern slavery in countries like Saudi Arabia. We shouldn't treat our heroes like this. So we are demanding all Gurkha veterans are paid an equal pension to other British veterans. That includes veterans from pre-1997.

The Government's response

The Government published its response on 19 August 2021; the petitions site lists the Ministry of Defence as responsible. Its summary:

For most Gurkha veterans the Gurkha Pension Scheme provides a pension at least as good as, and in many cases better than, that given to their British counterparts with identical periods of service.

The opening 378 words of the 687-word response:

The Government highly values the service of all members of the Armed Forces, including Gurkhas who have a long and distinguished history of Service to the UK both here and overseas.

The Government view is that the Gurkha Pension Scheme (GPS) is a very fair scheme and we are committed to providing Gurkha veterans with a fair pension. Gurkha pensions are different, but these differences are objectively and reasonably justified and suited to the circumstances of the time. The legal basis for Gurkha pensions has been upheld by three Judicial Reviews since 2003, including a case that went to the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR).

It is a principle of all public sector pensions policy that improvements to pension schemes are not made retrospective. Since 2007 Gurkhas have served on the same basis as the remainder of the British Army apart from specific conditions to maintain the Brigade of Gurkhas. All serving Gurkhas on, and those who retired after, 1 July 1997 were given the option to transfer to the Armed Forces Pension Scheme (AFPS). The 1 July 1997 date is significant because that is when Gurkhas ceased to be a Far East based force and became based in the UK.

For most Gurkha veterans the GPS, which closed in 2007, provides a pension at least as good as, and in many cases better than, that given to their British counterparts with identical periods of service. Under the GPS Gurkhas qualified for an immediate pension after 15 years’ service, typically in their early 30s, whereas most British personnel on the AFPS did not serve for the 22 years necessary to qualify for an immediate pension, and instead have a preserved pension payable at the age of 60, or age 65 for service after 2006. This means typically Gurkhas will have been receiving pension payments for over 25 years before most British soldiers of the same rank and length of service qualify for any payments under the AFPS.

The GPS differs from other pension schemes but provides a positive standard of living in Nepal and is objectively fair and justified, as upheld by three Judicial Reviews since 2003, including a case that went to the ECHR. The ECHR judgement, which contains further background information, is published here:

https://www.army.mod.uk/media/6211/european-court-ruling-gurkha-pensions.pdf

Read the full response on the petitions site.

Where the signatures came from

Signatures came from 650 constituencies on the boundaries used until the 2024 general election. The largest number, 2,824, came from Aldershot.

105,933 of the signatures were from the UK and 2,345 from elsewhere, by the location signers gave.

Ten constituencies with the most signatures (2010 Westminster constituencies (used until the 2024 general election)).
ConstituencySignatures
Aldershot2,824
Ashford1,428
Folkestone and Hythe1,208
Reading West968
Feltham and Heston927
Maidstone and The Weald834
Greenwich and Woolwich782
Basingstoke763
Erith and Thamesmead759
Nuneaton753
Signatures by region and nation, as published by the Petitions site.
RegionSignatures
South East23,469
London13,535
South West10,312
North West9,160
East of England8,740
West Midlands7,477
Yorkshire and The Humber7,292
East Midlands5,869
Scotland5,702
Wales4,852
North East4,165
Northern Ireland2,122

Debate in Parliament

MPs debated the petition in Westminster Hall on 22 November 2021. Read the debate in Hansard. House of Commons Library debate pack.

Source and receipt

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